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But all the land was cheap, you know, and I don't remember how much he had but he was a rich man, you know, for the, for that he got 100 200 you got, who did? He had some, you got a family, you know, you had a

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big family after that, you know, he gave all this, some people keep the land, some sold, you know, go like that and just me and my brother, yeah, me and my two brother still had some land here. So you were related to him? What was his

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name? Oh, that was Cesar. But yes is uh you know. Yeah. Oh yeah, I didn't know you had that on. Right. Well, I just wanted to hear about the fam where the area was split up, you know. Um One thing I had lots of different things.

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I wanted to ask y'all about anything you, you know, Marceline, anything you wanna add, please do. Um But one thing I was working on was getting a lot of names of musicians that used to play. Like can you think of like other musicians back in the

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past besides AAD that you might have heard of any other musicians back names. O you know, like in, did you know many musicians when you were? Oh, well, I know one. I know the one we call uh Joe. But Joe Ya, who is that name? I

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don't remember them. That's right. Mark. Tell me about Jo. Jo. He was used to stay in love me that a white guy killed him in a, with a nice call it and then, and they dance now he was one, y'all learned a lot of songs from,

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well, I know Mark learned some stuff from him and uh, and uh what I believe, uh Mark, you know what that time, uh Mark was a young at that time. I pass. I know when he got killed. I don't, I don't, I don't remember if I

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was mad. Yeah. Yeah, I miss you. But anyhow, and he used to stay in the and last May and that can be that I don't, he was going to and was Julia an accordion player or Phil accordion player. And he, um like, can you think of

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some songs, some names of some of the songs? But I don't remember that but I know, you know, you used to play or the almost, it was all played almost the, the same to, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And the, and the only thing is voice, he

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had a voice just like old lady, you know. Yeah. He didn't have a big voice. You know? Yeah. Oh, but I would like his voice and I was like, it, it was me, you know, to keep on it and I, all you got to know policy.

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Yeah. So, you learned a lot of the, so, did you learn some of the words from him? You didn't, you didn't learn from him? No. But, uh, was he older than a lot older than you? Uh, he was little than me? Mhm. You don't remember his,

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his name though? His family? No wonder. But, uh, that's all we know. You know, sometimes we got a little nick name. That was good. Just like me with was, but a lot of people didn't know that, you know, and I just like, I don't know if

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it's a real name. Joe Yard or, or what? Right. That's just the name everybody calling. And, uh, I see. I don't know. No, it's not a swallow. Maybe it's a urine but it was a, a thing with, uh, what is urine? And that was all the

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same, you know, uh, his mom, his sister then she must call his mom. Yeah. And she might just wanna clear about this mom. I, what is that? What they do? But, uh, sometimes, you know, we didn't have the, the same, uh, you have brought, you know,

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that's something I wanted to ask you too. That reminded me when you said that, um, who is it telling me that? Oh Mr Sa, you know, Joel Savo Mark's dad. It was something that I'm a day. Ok. And he, he said that amadie had told him

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that the reason he called himself, his, he got the name Ardouin was because of the people that raised him, that they weren't his parents. And he just took the name Ardoin. Is that, did you ever, was he an orphan? And, uh, you know, I was, I

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was all the time but maybe they were, were they all raised by the same people? Maybe. So, I don't know. Yeah, that's what I was wondering because he just said that, um, raised by these people, everyone's brother, you know, they are, they, they give the name

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but they say they be abu supposed to be a Bush. Family name is supposed to be. But they all put the name, I don't know what may, maybe just like he said, maybe it's real nice. People raised him or something and maybe he, maybe his parents

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had died and he didn't know him and maybe he just took the name. No, no, no, no, no, no. We need to get out to be a, it was smaller bit. Yeah. But all the rest, his brother was the oldest member. So his mom and daddy

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didn't raise it. Ah, they di, they did die. You said when he was young? They, uh, I mean, it was young, you know, at that time we had some people that standing at the same time. See, there was white people were buying and they would make

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that sign of any, I guess that's the way it works to make that, that I did. And that is why people had some more ways, I guess. Maybe it could be, uh, maybe it would have to be because, um, now, wait a minute, that's, I just

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thought of that, you know, who knows Eli Ardor in Eunice. His father had a big farm in Eunice and he had, he, um, I met his grandfather and father worked for him and I bet you that's where they got that name was from Eli. Or because

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he knows the grand, what were their names? The grandfather and the father, do you know them? Did y'all know the grandfather and the father of Alma? Because Eli had told me their names. I've got it written down somewhere but I, I just couldn't. Well, that's pretty

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neat. Maybe that's, I bet you anything that's why. Um, well, I guess I'll just do talk to you about a, a day first since we got on the subject. Now, um, I'm trying to make a little story about him to go with his songs, you know,

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and I was interviewing everybody that knew him. So now what was your family connection with him? And, uh, I don't believe it, you to try to make, you know, not a name but everybody, we all know, you know. And, uh, I believe if you put a,

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some kind of name, they're gonna work. No, no, I'm just telling just different stories. People tell, I'm gonna say nobody really knows, but just, that's all I'm not gonna put anything like this is the way it is. You know, because I'm just putting different stories in

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y'all's words, you know, just people that knew him because there's no other way to find out. He's gone. There's nothing written about. So he was your uncle cousins? Yeah. If they were, they said about from their old people, you know. But if it's a, if it's

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a Bushnell, I'm not a Bush name. No, that you, maybe you want to sign out. I know that time. You know, they, they didn't. No mo, no. And they never go to school. They never, no, no. Me, I went to school. I went to school to

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eat my lunch and, uh, oh, yeah. So you, so you knew I'm a day, right? I mean, I've heard some stories you've told about, um, when he would come over to d, to y'all's house. Oh, yeah. We used to come a lot of the time. You

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know, I had some, uh, some sister, you know, he used to come and meet all the time, you know, sometimes it was the, but two or three weeks with us like that. What kind of a person was he? That's a hard question because he was a

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man, you know, not tall, kind of a small size. Yeah. Yeah, more than me. Oh, you jo, we used to when I was young and he was one of my visit us all the time, all the time and the week you would make some dance, you

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would be able to dance to us. And then he got, yeah, he was fine. Cameron said he used car. I'm sorry. Well, I want to ask you, you said L A, is it the sov? Oh, ok. Uh, what, what, what about, is there a LA? So,

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have you ever heard of, was it just a name? They give it, you know, like that. And that time he used to have a lot of car, you know. You know what I mean? That's what I, that's what I, that's what you're talking about and that's

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where you lived and it was over near Bazil, right? I was just making sure I got that right. So much, you know, and they call it. I was ok because that's what Joel had told me too. I was just doubling up on, um, and then another

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thing with that. Do you all know Rosa from Adio Rosa? The song she lived over there too. You know that song I heard a whole lot but I never played on it. I don't know why. That, that, that's a old song. Uh, they must, they must,

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supposedly, she lived in La Sova too and she used to go out all night to the dances I was just wondering if y'all knew her. She was from the same place. Amadie was from the same area and that's, I just wanna see if you all knew.

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I heard that. Ok. Well, um, well, so he was a small guy and he used to play music at your dances and stuff. Did he work or anything? Was he a farmer or? Did he pretty much? No. No, he never did work. Oh, no, he might,

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uh, the place where he was staying, you know, with the PB, he was dead, he was heavy, you know, like a hole and, you know, it was something like that but he was not high, you know, just like me. Just a little bit, a little bit

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for his food, his clothes, you know, something like that. That's all they do. Yeah. He never take a job, you know, for, take a regular job, you know? Oh, no, no, no, no. His job you would register well. So, did he have any, did he have

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any girlfriends? And he was, or was he ever married? He was all the time, you know, when he was, when he was? No. No, I mean, you never had a wife? Uh, it's pretty interesting. No. So, you learned some songs from him when you were little?

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Do you think you picked up some of the tunes, you know, from listening to, like, yeah. Oh, yeah. Have you ever heard of, um, Sydney Bovino? Oh. Yeah, I heard about it but yeah, I see him one or two times. He was, he used to stay

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and rain but he did, you know? Yeah. Yeah. What was it like? Well, you probably, you're not that old but I mean, it might be hard for you to answer this question. But like, what was it like? Um, did you all play, like, did the people

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when you were little in your community? Did y'all when you played music? Was it like house dances and family parties? You know, like was it just like house dances or did y'all have clubs and stuff? No, no, no, no club at that time. No, not too

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many years. Uh, they had some, uh, you know, but, uh, this lady who comes over my house sometimes was telling me that they used to put wooden boards around the outside of the house they call it. Is that right? And, um, you have a dance outside

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in the yard, is that right? That was the dance floor? You'd make a dance floor outside, right? OK. Yes, you can tell. Oh, that's neat. Would have a OK. Go ahead. Don't let me stop because I love to hear this way. Uh But that time, you

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know, and the house, not all the house they want to make some, the, the house was big enough, you know, to what a big crowd, you know. Yeah. Now when they had something like that, when they know, they had a big crowd, like, they make that,

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uh, that, you know, to make it. Well, did the musicians sit outside too? Like, when you'd have a B de, like, what would you have, like, usually? Would you have an accordion and somebody else playing too, or what kind of accordion? And that little was the,

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yeah, and suddenly was a record and a V and, uh, you got, some old people would just play the violin just like, uh, uh, m, you know, and they play two violin together, you know. Yeah, too. But that's all the squad dance, you know, all kind

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of old wars, you know, like that. Can you think of the names of any fiddle players that you might remember? He had, like Napoleon, I guess. I don't know if it's a real name, you know what, that's all I know about. He played the violin and,

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uh, well, my uncle pretty too. He was put together all the time. He played with pole. Yeah. Oh, no, you talking about, I know we talk about salmon. Yeah. All night. No. And, you know, they, they would take all the beds, you know, in the living

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room, you know, and they take some plan for, you know, get the wall for the people to sit down, you know, on the house, you know, inside the house, outside and inside the house. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, uh, but the plan, but, uh, to s, yeah,

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Mhm. Oh, yeah. Everyone, now the dance had to, uh, over to talk about some, some dust too and that does the room and sweep and throw some little bay wallet, but then add it to my dirt. Now they got to, to, to, uh, f all that

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bed, put all that furniture, you know, back which they go to sleep in. That was a job but there was nothing for them for that done. They didn't know better, you know, didn't know better. Well, we all live in um like, you know, this, you're describing

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these dances and things like, were you over in Las Ova? Did they have dances like this too? And like, where were you living at that time? You've always, and so when it had some and I was going all the time and when it had some death

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and long long we call you had a horse, you used to go out. I mean, how did all these people find out? Well, I don't know when you get together like that. Oh, no time you got a cry, you know, uh uh used to have a

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lot of people around here. Well, that's that, that would be fun. What about, did y'all ever hear? I know you've heard of this. Um What about a long time ago? Even when they didn't have instruments when they would do music with their feet? Did you, do

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you ever remember that? Mark was telling me how some of the people, when they'd have a dance they'd just make the rhythm with their feet and the people would dance to them. They used to have some spoon, you know, too. And I, I don't know how

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they was played out and there was, you could be good enough. You did that on that? Yeah, I remember that. But I can hate the, the sp, yeah. You mean, like, say if you didn't have a band with somebody, just stuff and then people would dance

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and stuff and he was, and he was singing, you know, with that and he had a stick when he was two and he was short and made that stick to what was his name? We call it Blanco. But that's, that's what mcintyre Mac G mcintyre. And

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I don't know what, that's why he was so um Marceline, you, you know y'all were naming some fiddlers. What about over in loo vs? Can you think of any pe people that played the fiddle in the accordion when you were little over there? And he had

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a one or can on, on his mom and brother? He would have been a feeling. What was his name? Joel Victoria. Joel Victoria. That was his last name. Victoria. And I, oh, it's OK. I can see that was a mental predict the V Yeah. And he,

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he died young too. You talk about playing but can we can play but can learn from that? But can we can just now, but now he can't play, but he ran too much but, you know, when he, he don't drink too much. But the same. So

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did he, did he play, um, like his style of playing, like, did he play kind of like Dennis or did he play some blues stuff or did he all kinds of things? But he was too scared to go make a, he was a man can with

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him. He's not scared of nothing. But his daddy was a man was so scared, so easy to get lonely. They told him he would make a regular daddy put you in a dog and it was all kind of thing that and he never wanted to go

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and I mean, they went, daddy wanted him to go to but him, he didn't want to go. He was too scared to be, that was too scared to do with a loss to everybody. Oh, yeah, that's the only thing he was not singing, you know. But

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we don't call that play. I got some more names to throw at you. Now, if you know, you ever heard of Wayne Perry? He was a fiddle player. Wayne Perry. He was from Crowley, wasn't he? Is that the one a long time ago? A La Fleur?

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He lived in this area here. He used to play with a K with dad too. Yeah. What is this area right here called? This one right here where you live, is it? But it's, uh, ok. What about Douglas beard? Did you know he was

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about two years? And where is his aunt now? Is she dead? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Um, where do you think if I wanted to? I wonder if there's any pictures of him anywhere? I don't know. Somebody told me that he was living over in Washington for

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a while and that maybe, um, I could find a picture if I went over and, uh, you got one and, uh, he got a strong too. But if I find it, yeah. But maybe I can find a, because he was married to one of my cousins.

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She got a son for no, and I got a, uh, my cousin, brother Steve used, maybe you can find a picture. Maybe he had one assist, maybe. Oh, and that would be great. I would really appreciate it, you know. But, uh, more short in that, that,

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uh, that a woman would, would do it. Is that, uh, it was, uh, the kind of blood anyhow she asked me if I would know the view I say yes, my dad is just, uh, was too broad. You're supposed to know some, somebody defend. Oh, really?

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Ok. Well, Dorothy works with her. Yeah. Ok. Well, um, yeah, if you all can do that, maybe I'll call you back in, in a little while or something and see if you heard anything about it because that'd be really neat. All you gotta do. Show that,

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uh, show you that girl. What did you see Jackie that yesterday? Anything, some fry I talk to you. But she asked me, you know, I didn't know. She asked me if I, uh, if I would know, uh, the place. Oh, I say, yeah, I said I'll

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play with it. She asked me, I would play with it. I said, yeah, I play with it. Yeah. And she works at the Super too. I'm gonna go over there too and see. But, you know, and then you were saying you knew a couple of other

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people who maybe I thought y'all would probably know something about that because I, um, this one. Yeah, I know that we didn't want to, uh, the day before yesterday. Mhm. Mm. What about, um, well, was he really a bad man? Everybody tells me he was real

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mean people just out there just trying to make a story. Mhm. But he was a real fun musician who was on that candidate. He was shocked when he was drinking. Really? He had that. Ok. Yeah, I figured that would have gotten blown up by the time

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I hear about it. Um, what about when they used to have a house dance? Did the people? I had heard a story that people couldn't play blues? Like if it was in your home, it was a kind of a wild thing to play the blues and

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people didn't approve of that, that much. Is that true? You know, Fray F, told me that, that he had a club and that, um, he said I had a nice club. Nobody played the blues in my club. He said the people play the blues in the

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old bars over there. He said that's pretty. And, uh, I believe that that, but they were, but they were, they were there to close with the door, you know, they were, they were shake that what they did? They get too excited when, yeah, that's the only

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thing I heard about that. They didn't want that. I know that because they dance too close. But when they waltz in two step they behave themselves. Do you know how to do these dances? Y'all like the base ball and some of those dances? Well, after we're

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through with this, I want you to sh um, this, this man asked me if I could, uh, write down the way to dance and I was gonna write down what you do. What did you do with your feet? You do three step on one side and

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then three step on here. Uh huh. That's the best dog. It's a certain tune. Do you know the tune and then can make a, a, that's what you dance to that. And that's called a Moro. Well, what other songs do you do that too? What other

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songs do you dance as to? Is there some other, like when you can you do that dance to other songs too or do you only do it to that song just to that? Uh OK. What's some other old dances? Can you all think of any other

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ones besides the baseball remo? Named a bunch of them? How about the Mazurka? Can you think of any other ones y'all did besides the two steps in the walls? No, he said, I wish I brought that. Well, if you think of any, tell me as we

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go along. But um, how about, did you know a man named Lynn Doza? Lyn Doza? I think he played the fiddle. Or be Font. No. Oh, be Font. No. Oh, yeah. Font. No, man. Be what card? Man? That the Fremont? It's Fremont's brother. Yeah. He looked,

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he really looked like him. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I was gonna ask you before. I forgot too. You said your mom used to have some pictures of you when you were little, when I was little. I remember that. Good. Well, does she have him

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anymore? But I know that me, me and my two brothers, a picture of you and your brothers. It sure would be neat to see that. I remember that all the time, you know. Yeah. Jean Broussard's father was your brother? Oh, what do you know? So that's

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the connection. That's right. She's your, yeah, she says she's, yes. What's that at work? I got that on tape. But it, I like her, she's nice.