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Testing. Testing 12. Ok. We're in Alto Mars October the seventh, 1990. But in West Texas, what are you guys talking about about uh Juan Maria Mendoza? I, I made him, I think the uh well, um about 47 1947. Yeah, 4748. And, and we used to go

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to the West Texas to pick up, but we used to go not to pick up to, to play in a theater in Lubbock. The name was uh Royal Royal Theatre, Royal Royal. It was a Juanita and Maria Lydia Mendoza mother. She was the one that booked

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them. She was the one that booked them and they took me to, to Pao them to help him with the accordion. And that was when we used to pick up IIII I was a driver also, I was driving the car, the car belonged to Miss Mendoza,

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the mother of Juanita and Maria Mendoza. And did, she used to have a car, an old car and then I used to drive it and they hired me to drive a car and to work with them in a theater to once you got there. Well, they

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show that picture. Yes, we went to, to a, a hotel, a motel or something like that, a hotel and we went and get ready like here and, and then went to the show and they show the movie and then in the middle of the show, they

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open up to the Bola Barria for Juanita Maria Mendoza to sing and they had a brother Ramiro or something like that. His name Manuel, the one, the, the one that used to, to be like a clown or the one that Comico Andre Comico, I remember him

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very well. And he used to get up there first and then, uh we used to get second, him and Maria Maria, Juanita Mendoza went inside then into play. You see what I mean? And I don't remember what if they used to play the guitar or no?

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Yeah. They used to play the guitar and Maria Maria. That right. No, no. Piano. No, no, that was guitar. No, no, no. By that time he had, she played the guitar. Well, this guy came out first and I answer and, and, and then, uh chain chain.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. The one, the comedian. No, no, no. Uh they introduced Maria and Juanita at first and then we came singing and I followed them on occasion with the accordion and Maria played the guitar and, and then they put uh the guy to, to, you

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know, the one that used to what your name was Ramiro chain chain. And, and, and, and I remember, I remember Manolo very well. I remember him right now very well. The chain, the one that used to talk the comic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I remember him. And

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so we play in, in the one night and the next night we play in big screen and then the next night we play in La Misa Friday, Saturday and Sunday. That was in 1947 4647 something like that. 47 48 48 maybe 48. I don't know why

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I remember that. That was in the, the I used to be in love with, with, with the smallest, with Juanita. Mm I used to, I used to be in love with her and she, she was, I think she used to like me in other words, but

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I never told her nothing because I went to see her when we was in San Antonio. I went to her house and, and see her and she sat down on the middle of Ro, I know how girls are but I never had the gut to tell

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her nothing. And then Daniel Garcez told her something and then he, he got a family from Daniel, you know that he got family, she got family. Yeah. So that's the way it pass the line over. Um and, and, but I remember that we went to West

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Texas and, and work, you know, I went but two times with them two years. Her mother, her mother. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In a guardian. And everybody on the, no. No. Well, yeah. Yeah. It was Corona and she heard, and then, then she called me, maybe she

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heard my records and then she called me, she, and, and she didn't, she didn't like me but she called me to work with them. She, she didn't like me at all because, you know, that I was, I was after Juanita and she didn't like me at

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all. But he didn't like me because she knew that I was Juanita. What I mean? And, and, and, and yeah, but two trips, two trips, two years. It took me two trips. No, guitar, guitar, the guitar. Yeah, I used to play with the go and I

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think Mario, Juanita, I don't remember Mario wanted to play the guitar. Maria. Maria because they, because Juanita and Maria were singing in a duet style. Was that why they wanted to have Maria? And they, they used to sing together for a second. Is, is they used

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to sing and they used to sing. Beautiful. No, no, nothing, nothing. Just, just, just a record and guitar on the guitar. The people like it. Like when you play the music. Oh, yeah. The people, black people imagine we used to play in the Cantinas old, not,

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not Maria Guana, but I used to play in the Latinas and they used to pay us 25 cents for a song for two. And that was a lot of money in those days. You know, that was a lot of money to play. Word on 25. Yeah.

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Guitar guitar and just guitar and all. And there were, there weren't too many bales, guitar and accordion, guitar and accordion. Tell me they were battles already. But the people didn't, didn't care too much for them. They used to play guitar. They came from Mexico. Maybe they

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make our uh uh what's your name? The one in Mathias? He wasn't there. Maybe yet. Or, I don't know, I don't remember, but there was some Bibles. I think he was there. But not, not all the people use the v actually, they used to use guitar,

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they used to use a guitar problems you ran into on some of those trips or did some people give you a bad time? No, no. Everybody used to like the con and, and the, the, the way they sing, they used to sing very good. Juanita and

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Maria used to sing very good. There was uh good voices in other words and, and uh Lydia. Lydia. Well, I never went with Lydia, never went with Lydia, but in other words, Lydia was on, on the tower also playing. I never went with, I never accompanied

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Lydia but Juanita was no, not, not Lydia but Juanita Maria. Yeah. Yeah. Juanita Maria would Lydia go on those trips. No, no. Yes. Juanita Maria and, and, and sometimes the, the, the guy who told me, uh Cain and his mother, Latino. No, no, Lydia wasn't on

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that trip. No, Lydia almost played herself all the time. Lydia was all my, all the time, but Lydia wasn't, wasn't on the, wasn't playing over there. So that, that would be just a tour with, with her Mendoza and Leonora Mendoza would organize those tours. But she

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would be the, who was the, put those together? Her mother and that would be Leonora. Did you? I mean, we have a lot of people told us that at that time up there in West Texas, it was very hard for, uh, people to travel because there

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was a lot of discrimination. I remember that we used to go when we was on the road to, to, from San Antonio to Lubbock and Big Win. They don't let you use the restrooms in the, in the city, like in, in Frederick. Beg and all those

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places, little town. They don't, they didn't use the, they don't want you to use the, the, they didn't, they didn't want Spanish in the restaurant. They won't let you go into the restaurant. They said you, they, they had a little window on the outside. They send

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you the hamburger to the outside or whatever chili was to the little, little window, but you had to buy it on the outside and they don't let you use the restroom. They didn't want you inside of the restroom. A lot of discrimination. A lot of it,

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a lot of, a lot of discrimination until the second World War after the Second World War. Then the, the, the, some guys that came from the army, they came and they tried to sell them because, and they went inside AU and, and then au in other

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word and then the law comes right to take them out and they couldn't, they break all of everything that the, the Spanish used to break the restaurant. But that's what they used to break them. Like the, like they raised over here in California, the Hispanic group

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with the, with the Americans up there. I, I remember that plainly because when we went, went to, to West Texas to work, they didn't, they didn't want, they didn't want you inside a restaurant. They say you through the window, that little window and they, you go

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to the guest station, they didn't let you use the restroom. They tell you, hey, go up there to the pastor and then when you're away, you go, my restroom is broke. No. Mexicans allowed, they used to put that sign on restaurant. Not Mexicans allowed these people

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used to eat in the kitchen. They used to eat in the kitchen in those days in Texas. Yeah, outside or in the back in the kitchen. Andres Mendoza told us one story. He said that after a show one night you and, and, and him went down

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to uh, to a restaurant and eat some hamburgers to take back to the tourist quarter or something. And that you guys went in to order their hamburgers and that the waitress told you that you couldn't stay, you couldn't order them inside. You have to go outside

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that the way you do. Yeah. Yeah. That's the way they used to do. They, they discriminate you. You don't remember any specific incidents though, in particular, in, in, in, in, in Fredericksburg. I saw something like that. Yeah. 222 Spanish. They came from the army. They were

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dressed but they were Spanish. They were dressed in uniform. They were still dressed in uniform and they went inside and they put them out and they grab rocks and start, I remember they grabbed rocks and start shooting to them. They broke all the windows and everything

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that they broke, all, they got them windows in there and then they ran, see what they ran. You know, there was a criminal. The dog was gonna come and was gonna take him but they ran and got in the car and 22 soldiers. I'm a Spanish

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soldier. They didn't want to tell even they came from the army. They didn't want, they didn't want, they didn't want them. Yeah. And they, they got mad and they got rocks and, you know, bricks, they make pizzas out of the restaurant and that's a bad idea.

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And then put it on, they start letting people go in there because they was afraid of them. They got afraid of, they said, well, maybe the Spanish is bad and we better let them then after that they start, you know, now you can go anywhere but

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there's still places like on, like, on Freddy and all these little towns and between, between Lubbock and San Antonio, they still are places that, that you get in. But the, the people, you know the American people, they, yeah. Yeah, they look, you look good. They don't

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wanna sit down close to you. Nothing. They wanna be discriminating. There still is in Texas, in Texas, in some parts of some parts still not like her. And, and, and I don't know, a lot of other people come from Germany and they, they came first than

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us. So that was like, no, but there are a lot of bollocks, you know, bollocks and all kind of people, you know, the Americans, you know, from the hills. They, they think they're superior than some other people. Do you know what I mean? But not, not

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no more, a few of them, but not no more because even in San Antonio there are a lot of restaurants, big restaurant that, you know, if you're Spanish going there, well, if you're well dressed, it's all right. But, you know, Spanish is always, you know, like

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average people, they, they don't put a tie on and they, they, they, you can tell about it. Because the way they look, the way they, the way they act, you know. Crazy. Yes. In Victoria, Texas, the first time that I saw Lydia in Victoria, Texas in

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a, in a, in one of those uh theaters up there. I was very young, very young and Lydia was young also. She was a beautiful woman when she was young. Lydia was beautiful when she was young. No, no, no, it just sounded like a bird thing.

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And in other words, like a beautiful bird thing. And, and, and now the way I feel about it because music, I always did love, love music. And I was really, really, no, I went by myself. I used to live in Victoria for a while, two or

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three years and, and no, that was a theater on a Maria that a show like like a show and her mother was, was her at that time. But Juanita and Maria wasn't, there, wasn't there. Her mother and Lydia. And I remember he

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was, he was good Montes. I think he was very good. I remember he was very good. All the people left, all the people when he talked, all the people left. I remember that all the people that they all left and they him with him and then

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with the young and about the same age as the same, the same. But the, yeah, and, and, and, and Juanita Mendota was a beautiful girl too and she was short. She wasn't so high. And then, and then that in that time and then the, the, the

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time passed, the time went by and I saw it about 25 years later, I saw a giant. Juanita was like a giant. She was very big and that was the last time I seen her big, big woman, I mean big, you know, I stand like her.

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No, you have to look up to see Juanita, you know her. But she was very young when I, when I, when we used to sing together and play together. But then I went, when I went away and then when I came back to San Antonio, I

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saw Juanita man when I started looking at you Juanita, Juanita and she start loving me. And I said, no, she, she, she's a young, she grew up to high man. The one I never seen again is Maria. I never saw Maria again. Never seen Maria again.

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Then I saw Juanita uh not long ago, about seven or eight years ago that show in Victoria. We went there. No, no, you Lydia. I never heard the mother saying, I never did hear it. No, no, no, no. I used Lydia and, and Juanita Maria, that's

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the one that did. I didn't, I didn't see the rest of them. They say, yeah, I used to play bandol and everything like that before when they started and his father, his mother used to play with him. See what I mean, but I don't, I don't

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know, I didn't really knew him since that time. I knew him later on, in other words. But, oh, Lydia, la, la, la Alondra de La Frontera. I wonder why they never give her a chance in the movie, you know, Mexican theater or something. We end up,

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um, travel. No, none of them were, they were young, very young, maybe 48 47 48 48 9, maybe something like that. I don't really remember one but it was a long way ago. Long, long, long way. But later on when, when you were recording for discos,

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did you ever run into them? I think so. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I, I help them to record one or two or three. records 7878. I have Maria Juanita because II, I remember that, that I help them to record a few of them. And I have

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also uh oh Marquis wife Hermana Hernandez from Texas Car. But they used to call him Las Hermanos Hernandez. Yeah. They used to call Carmen Laura. They used to call him Lass Hermanos Hernandez. They were, they were sisters, they were sisters. Carmen Rava was sisters and they

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used to record with Ideal. The first recording artist were, were there was, there was them and they used to make blanks, not uh not regular disco, no blanks. And they used to play them in the pianola and, but they were blanks you know, they weren't, uh,

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regular records. Yes. He, he, he is the payment by the record. 25 $25. You need some. Would you get, if you were a company when you play behind Mar? Oh, about $10. Maybe when I make and sing my record. You 25? No, no, no, no. You

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never did Zing. No, we not getting in. You have to find out. I never seen him. I never saw him but Carmen Lara was a good singer. Hernandez. Yeah, I think so. They call, they call them, they used to call them La Hermanas Hernandez. But they

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were from Texas and there was, uh, uh, Herita Hernandez from Mexico and that's what they call it out and then they put Carmen, I Laura, but first they, they ran by La Hermano Hernandez from Corpos from Alice. Alice, Texas. Do you remember anything about Juanita and

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Maria when they were in the recording studio? Were they easy to record with because they were they real professional or are they hard to work with? No, no, no, they were professionals. They were professional. Oh, yeah, they were all the time. Yeah. No, no, no trouble

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to, you wouldn't have to make a lot of change because it's easy. It's easier when I, it's easier when I work with them and I'm not singing. It's easier for me to play the accordion. Let's go. Yeah. I don't have to concentrate on voices and that

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when I play and sing at the same time, I have to concentrate on two songs. You know what I mean? Two or three songs. And when I, if you sing and I play well, I put more to in it, you know, you know what I mean?

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And that's why I have never had trouble recording with Juanita Maria or with, uh Carmen. I laura never did better as far as their singing goes. Juan de Maria. Yes, you're right. Or they used to sing beautiful. They used to sing. Beautiful. No. When, when, when

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Leon Leonora came and when, when you, when Leonora Mendoza came and got you to play, uh what did she say uh about your music? Or you remember what she said? She did like my music but she was very jealous with Juanita and Maria. She was very

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jealous, miss me and the old lady, she was very jealous of it. She was just watching her, watching Maria and watching Juanita. You know, well, I never had a chance to talk with him. I never given a chance to talk with her. Even though you were

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touring with, I was doing with, I didn't get a chance to, she, she went to sleep on the back seat up there in the way and she wasn't asleep. She was, she was watching you walk and hold it down. Give it a night. That woman didn't

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rip if you started to talk to one of those girls, what would she do if you let go, let go, let go, let go, let go, wait, go, let's go. She would just come and say that she wouldn't just look at you or something. She would

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come and how that he was already yellow with Maria. I don't blame her because she was, she, there was kind of artist, you know, and maybe she was afraid to lose them. I think they get in love with somebody and then they went with somebody else

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and then didn't have a show. Do you know what I mean? Do you want to get on your or did? But um, but she was a nice lady, you know, she was a nice lady but she was very jealous. Oh, I asked one of the boys

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and she tell you about it. She wasn't, she wasn't yellow with the boys. She was yellow with the girls. Yeah, with Juanito Maria. I don't remember like right now I remember her very, very well. Could you describe her what she was like? Could you describe her

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what she looked like or what the impression she gave you? Well, no, just when, when I used to try to talk with Juanita or something like that. She always start talking to me and you have to do this, you have to do that, you know, like

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buzzing me or something like that. You have to get in front of it and then, and then she didn't give me a chance to talk with him and they put me one time, they put me to, to talk to introduce in the theater. I was too

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young, you know, and she got mad because I went up there and well, ladies and gentlemen, now we got, oh yeah, Juanita Maria Mendoza already. Well, I didn't say nothing like comic or something, comedian or something like that because I didn't know, I didn't know how

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to do it. And I just went up there. I went, yes. Now we got Juanita Maria right away. She went, I didn't say nothing and she got mad. Why are you supposed to talk? Word? You're supposed to talk and, and make the people laugh and make

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them feel happy. But when Juanita Maria come out, the people are happy already. But what can I tell him? I said, I don't know how old they feel. She also got mad with that. I remember she got mad for that one time because she, you go,

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you have to present the girls, you have to go in there and, and present the girls. She didn't tell me how to do it. I just went up there and say now ladies and gentlemen here, Juanita Maria and they come right away. I didn't say nothing

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to the girl and she got me for that and, and that's the way it was. You know what I mean? You were very jealous of her. Well, I didn't I didn't, I never had a chance to talk with her. Who is Juanita? Do you think she

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wanted to talk to you or did she seem like she was open? Yeah, I feel like talking to her all the time because she was beautiful, beautiful eyes just like her. Would she smile at you? She used to smile like her. She used to smile. He

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used to smile very. Oh, Juanita used to smile with me all the time and she used to, you know, to try to, I, I didn't even have the guys to say, hey, Juan, let's go. Sometimes. You know, when you're young, you kind of stupid. You don't

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get the nerve to talk to the girls. You're afraid, you know, I was afraid that she was gonna say no or something. Yeah. But I remember she was looking like her and I, you know, yeah, one time I went to their house in San Antonio, I

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remember and I went to the house when come in, come in, the mother wasn't there that day. And when I went, she put a chair for me and I sit around and she, she sat down in the middle of the floor, you know, they used to,

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to wear those PDAs, the big dress, you know, and then she sat around up there and left the PDA that way, you know. Hm. Beautiful, big eyes and beautiful Juanita. But I, I didn't hear, I didn't tell her nothing. First, when I, before I get to

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the house, I was thinking, I'm gonna tell Juanita to, to marry me, you know, to, to go out with me. And when I said I wanted to share inside, I didn't tell her that. Have you told her that? I want to bring the dog? Oh, what

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crazy, you know, you suffer and they like you suffer that and because even when you're young, you're kind of stupid. You, you're afraid to talk to the girls just for that. I, I was afraid that they say no something. I don't know. You feel, you don't

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feel like talking to them, like you feel like talking to them but you don't get the guys to talk. Do you know what I mean? To tell him something? What? But now get it close, you'll be, you'll be surprised even, even now some girls get to

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come and get close to me. I'm 65 and some 18 year old girl come in there and then I, I run them away. Go get away from here. Go on. What the hell do you expect from me? But I, I do like him. Don't, don't get

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me wrong. I like it. I like all the girls. I like beautiful women. I like them. But you know when they do young one you have to run them away. What the hell you gonna do with the younger girl? Imagine. Great. When you went up when

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you went up to Lubbock in 47. 48. Juta Maria. What did their mother seem like she was still in good health? Was she? No, she was in good health. I don't remember. What is that? What? 849 she wasn't still in good health. Very good health. She

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was old but not that old. I remember she was about 40 maybe 40 in the forties or 45 or 50 something like that. Pretty strong. Yes. Very strong. She was kind of big building. He was, I remember she didn play anymore. No, no, she didn't play.

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No, nothing, nothing at all. Nervous trouble. Who got the Maria? Did you spend the whole cotton harvest but month, month and a half, two months. And you go around to all the different towns in the, did you play in any cars up there? I used to

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play in the car. Yeah, we used to play in the car, la car in LA Car, Garcia. There was, there was no movies. Then. The Spanish movies was then. So when I was smaller than, than, than the seven years old, I used to play the guitar

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and I used to play in La Carmon, Diva, La Carra Garcia. And, and, and they gonna run a car. Car Cuba or something like that. But they weren't, they weren't show movies in Texas or no, no, not movies in Texas. There were no theaters. They were

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American theaters and no Mexicans and uh I heard those carpets. Did you enjoy that? Well, yeah, it was, it was, it was like movie, in other words, uh in other words, but everything was live. They used to, you know, walk on the, on the, on the

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rope and, and, and, and singing and what you didn't knew nothing about mons. Why? Once he r juan my compadre, one of my compadre me, he, he uh he used to record with me. He was a very good composer. You remember a song Quero Bear? No.

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Quero Milan. That was his, he, he composed that one. Raimundo Monte. Did they have dancers in the car park? No. Yes. Jewel. Just show me. Not V I live but the dancers who dance for the show part of the show. Yeah, they dance on the, on

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the, on the, on the not all the people, not all the people but the, but the people on the show like the girls in the show and sing and then say jokes and all that in the like, like movie, you know, but, but like people, but

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when you went up there to West Texas in the forties, did they have car parks up there or was it all theater? All the, we used to work in the American theater. There was American movies but in other words, the American movie, American movies and, and,

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and then they have you guys and they have also, and most of the people who came to see you were, they mostly the people who came to all the people who come to pick up, they went up there to deal. I mean, a lot of people,

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a lot of people now the crowds enthusiastic because they really enjoy it. Do you mostly just play Saturday and Friday and Saturday night or Sunday? The rest of the week, everybody would be out working, they went to the field and work. So, what would you do

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during the week when you were waiting between the shows? Sometimes I went to the big car. Is that right? I pick up the 50 £50 a day or something like that. And people used to, they used to be, I knew a guy that used to be

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£1200 a day pulling when they used to go £1200. He used to be, and he was skinny and tall and he used to be 12, 1200. He won't go home until he'd make £1200. 1000 £200. Did you ever meet Isidro Lopez? Is it, you know, Isidro

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Lope wasn't there yet. He wasn't there yet. Not, not one of the big cut. No, he wasn't. There. Isidro is newer than, than, than when the machines came out big cut machines and everything. Then after a long time, Isidro Lobo came in is, it wasn't too

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long. Betto was longer than him. Betto V. Betto V. Yeah, one of the biggest orchestras in Texas was Betto VLA. That was the biggest orchestra you didn't have no. Uh, ok. He, he was big. Oh, yes. Yes, I see, I even see him when, when, when

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the, the tax revenue got him got that too. So when they came, he came one time to Chicago and played and he bought 12 cars, new cars and, you know, Detroit, he took them up there and he didn't pay tax for that. He sold them up

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there and then the revenue got him and turn the revenue got back to you. Nobody told you about that. They got him, they got him, man, he bought the cars in, in Detroit and took them back to Texas and sold them in Texas and he didn't

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pay tax for that. And then they find out and they, they, they, they, the MTA MTA Grande, they charge them a big fine for that. Yeah. And then, and then he got sick, you know, Betto got sick and I don't know if he's still living or

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not. I don't think he, he, he, he died. That was the biggest or in Texas. And, and the guy that used to make the arrangements for him, he used to record with me. That's the saxophone you hear there. Betto. Beto Villa saxophone. The first one. Chuy

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Compo Compo, they're, we're very well known the Compo from Laredo, from Laredo, Texas. He was a Maestro. He used to come from Laredo to to, to, to Alice and, and I came from San Antonio. We came the same day that he didn't know, he didn't knew

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my book because he wrote him down a little while. He wrote them down all the time. Yeah. What next I tell him and then, ok, go ahead. Oh, yeah, he was, he was sharp. We, we were very sharp and the music, it was better. Yeah. I

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mean, uh, CD was a big music then there he went to play in a hotel in Houston. He married an American girl and then she died, he died. Do you remember a guy that was around then? In the late forties? Uh, he called himself the Coral.

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He was an impresario. They call him, they call him Doctor Nopal. No. Nopal is because he used to take Lydia on tours and that's why I was wondering if you had, no, I never, I never did, I never did know how much, how much was that

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for? How much was it be? I asked you. No, not that I, 100. 200. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, you got the money you can afford. I, I can, you gotta, you gotta spend it with you.